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December 5, 2006 at 4:15 am in reply to: You guys may get lucky.I eat at the Franklin Taco Bell . #37460MacdaddyMember
???? racism?????
December 5, 2006 at 4:11 am in reply to: You guys may get lucky.I eat at the Franklin Taco Bell . #37458MacdaddyMembernaw, more like 260
December 5, 2006 at 4:09 am in reply to: You guys may get lucky.I eat at the Franklin Taco Bell . #37456MacdaddyMemberyes, But not written vomit. Hey did you see craig stole that.
and yes bill, the easiest way is to gently place foot(in a boot) on the victim’s throate and press until something pops
December 5, 2006 at 4:04 am in reply to: You guys may get lucky.I eat at the Franklin Taco Bell . #37452MacdaddyMemberno-no bill, dont tell him that . I was going to volounteer.
MacdaddyMemberNow you’re getting into a whole different area.
MacdaddyMemberMaybe not but it is their perogative to do so. This does not invalidate your other part of this. They need to find a lot more riders. That is up to them.
MacdaddyMemberBill, I cant speak for deb but, If she wanted to join a different group and that droup said that there was a conflict, then yes.
again, I dont think is is all about these “5” riders.
MacdaddyMemberI grt it. I feel as frustrated as you do, but this particular issue isnt it. When there are many more important beefs against the leadership.
check your pm in a couple of minutes.
MacdaddyMemberDont get me wrong, If I had a say, I would not have asked them to change, But I can feel for them. Also I think that they may be thinking that they may lose riders from nj to go to Pottstown instead of hc because that race will now count for the state. not just pottstown riders going there. Cant you even acknowledge that that may happen? I know that you have serious problems with the leadership of the state, but not everything that happens is of evil intent, it just seems that way.
MacdaddyMemberBill, I am still not following you. What extortion? To ask someone to make some accomodations is not extortion. If you ran a soccer team and asked to join a different league, you would be subject to that leagues rules. I dont think that asking for some consessions amounts to extortion.
mind you, I am not a fan of the entity that is NJBMX so you know that I am not being a “mouthpiece”. Remember, they are asking to join NJ, NJ didnt ask them to join us.
MacdaddyMemberBy the way what meeting was this?
And – Pottstown is a very well run and maintained track. They would bring an outside point of view into the stagnentcy that is NJBMX. I thought that this is what everyone wanted?
MacdaddyMemberI gotta disagree with you Bill. I was at the meeting in november when this was brought up and I am very much in favour of adding Pottstown. However, I feel that if you want to join some other state, It would be reasonable to ask that no track run against another if possible. Egg harbor, took a lot of flak when they decided to move their start time on Sat up so that the racers had to decide between the two. They moved back to accomodate this and it was the right thing. The two tracks are within 1 1/2 hours from each other and they shouldnt run against eash other. This is a similar situation. Running on Sunday though, I dont know, Maybe Sunday evening or if they must run against another track, then It should be against the farthest track away.
MacdaddyMemberI have never refused when asked, but I, first and foremost, want to watch my son. So when vinnie, or matt or whoever, askes, I will generally help. Im sure there are others who are just like me and i am also sure that some of them are not national riders like my son.
By the way, about how many people does it usually take to run a race?
MacdaddyMemberPut bringing in new riders and their families(volounteers) aside for a second. We all know that the sport needs more riders.
There is a way to get more volounteers for locals when there is a need. The officials need to go to the parents, face-to-face and tell them to volounteer. Now I dont mean be nasty or anything but, asking for volounteers over the loud speaker or by e-mail doesnt work. The parents that would respond that way, already have. If track officials go directly to parents with, for example, the clipboard for being a corner marshall, and say something like,”we cant race without YOU” it would be hard to refuse. Do that every week until they get the point. Most people need to be asked in order to volounteer. I know that because I am like that. I also know that there are plenty of parents around to make sure the track can be open when there is a nat around. The track really needs to be open.
I think that you can separate the two problems. Make them smaller ones and fix what can be fixed the quickest and move to the next one. If the tracks can be kept open for more races then we can bring more kids in.
I know, I know, the most important problem is the rider count for locals. That does not preclude fixing something else.
MacdaddyMemberwhoops! brett, now check your pm
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