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The points break down for mains go:
Novice (NBL Rookie:
1st 60
2nd 50
3rd 40
4th 30
5th 20
6th 10
7th 8
8th 5Intermediate (NBL Novice)
1st 120
2nd 100
3rd 80
4th 60
5th 40
6th 20
7th 15
8th 10Expert/Girls/Cruiser
1st 240
2nd 200
3rd 160
4th 120
5th 80
6th 40
7th 30
8th 20All do go for the same NAG plate but with the Experts getting more points (harder class) they usually get the plates. This gives the Intermediates and Novices something to move up for.
ROC and Redline cup plates are based on age and class, so Rookie, Novice and Experts all have their own #1 plate.
With the qualifying you will see that Opens are huge at the ABA evens. They have mixed opens for Novice, Intermediate and Girls and then Open for the Experts (mixed age).
I like because if I go out and do good in the first moto I know I am garaunteed to make it out of the motos. If I screw up in the first one I know I still have a chance in the second moto.
Plus with the way they do practice you get a good amount of track time.
LeadSled1MemberUh, didn’t the riders have to buy their jerseys? ❓
LeadSled1MemberHopefully I can help you out on this one.
The top 20 list is not who goes to the most races. Only your 6 best scores count. I got into the top 5 with only 6 scores (3 weekends). I am now in 6th with 8 scores as some people moved up.
Since you only get points for your main it is a lot more economical for me to race ABA. In the NBL you have to get 1st in every single moto and the main to get the best points. One bobble in any of the 3 motos and your score is shot. In the ABA you can take 8th in the first moto (fall, equipment problem etc.), come back in the second moto and transfer, win the main and get the 1st place points.
Someone always gets the 1st place points at an ABA race. Very few do at the NBL nationals, it is hard to get a perfect and it gets them all to come back and try again at the next national.
Since the ABA Grands counts for double national points you can really make up some ground there if you make the main. How things fall out for moto selection has no impact, unlike the NBL Grands where moto selection can make or break you.
The ABA only plates the top 10 per age group (called NAG for short, National Age Group). This makes it much harder to get one of those plates and they are very prestigious. The plate is grey.
They also award what is called national numbers. It is your best 6 scores compared to every other racer in your gender and tire size class. The plate is black.
Next is the ROC (Race of Champions) which is the Friday before the Grands. The winner of that race gets a gold #1 plate that they can run anywhere for the next year.
Then there is the Redline Cup which has a series in each region. At the final, the winner gets a red #1 plate that they can run for the next year.
The district points give you a number in your district that you can run anywhere, including at the nationals. If you are district #1, that is your number and you run it everywhere. This is a white plate.
bitd, we used to be able to run our NBL state plates in any state. This is similar to that but on a total point accumulation. This one is for the people that race a ton of local events. Similar to the state highpoints in the NBL, but the NBL one is more scewed towards national riders. A perfect at an NBL national gives you 800 local points, where in the ABA it is only 300. This gives local only riders a chance to compete for the district plates and not get completely blown out of the water.
Let me know if that helps or if there is anything else I can help with.
LeadSled1MemberWhen the ABA dropped pro open it was because the riders were signing up for it and not showing for the motos. Not really a big deal from the ABA side as they were getting the money from the entry fees but it did look unprofessional to have a ton of guys missing off the gate etc. So they yanked it for a while to get some attention from the riders. Thats the only time I know of them pulling a pro event from the races. It was pro open and not a points class. If there was another time please let me know as I have not heard about it. This one was about a year ago.
LeadSled1MemberI’m trying to stay away from this one but it is quite hard not to pick on Dave. Something about the pro wiping out all the ams and bike maintenance comes to mind………….
LeadSled1MemberYou will see a lot of this at the NBL nationals. With the points being in the motos every single moto and every single position counts. If someone is trying to cap out and you ride them high in a moto you could have just ruined the race for them points wise. Gotta get that 1-1-1-1. You will notice you don’t hear about this on the other side of the house.
LeadSled1MemberStill training. I have moved to 50 sprints every other day with 4 X 25 leaps on the alternating days.
LeadSled1MemberThat is the Patriot Cup that started with Don at Blue Diamond and the Bensalem track. Lots of fun.
LeadSled1MemberThe national is Saturday morning and the regional is Saturday evening, 45 minutes after the national finishes. Sunday is another national.
LeadSled1MemberBill, I already have vacation scheduled so I can go this year. 😉 Hopefully I can pull a NAG plate this year.
LeadSled1MemberFunny that you say that Bill. I had a talk with the wife after I got back from Brazil and that is what it looks like will happen after this NBL Grands. Next year will be ABA only. It’s too much trying to race both and the ABA seems to have a much better product. Plus my daughters birthday is on the NBL Grands race (9-2) and I have missed it for two years now (she will be three in September, that is sad). Then with the kids starting school in late August it is much harder for them to miss during the first weeks of school than during Thanksgiving. JD goes into first grade this year, plus he likes the ABA races better than the NBL due to the sandbaging that he ran into at the NBL nats.
By cutting the NBL racing out I will be able to travel more and hit some of the big ABA races (A nats) including some west coasters next year.
I had to make a choice that fits our situation and I think this is the right one.
LeadSled1MemberWhen I posted the link up with all of the people who looked to be racing out of class in both sanctions you will never guess what happened. I had a message that night on my phone from Bill asking for me to call him back so I could give him more info. I had never talked to him on the phone before that. A big + in my book.
LeadSled1MemberWell if he is going to call you on the big pimping you might as well serve him up a dish of big elbow the next time.
At least get your moneys worth. 😆
I think he is tasting some sour grapes due to getting whooped.
LeadSled1MemberAnt, Blue Diamond is having a State race Saturday and Milford is having a Redline Cup qualifier Sunday (kind of like a Regional). Should be good turnouts and some great racing this weekend.
Kev, had a blast at the national. I love riding that track and I will be back up there with the kid before the end of the year.
LeadSled1MemberLOL
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