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What does this really mean anymore? On another site we were arguing over justification of prices for “An American Made Frame”…..there are some flatland frames over 350 just for the frame…..I personally dont think its worth it and I was wondering what others thought on the topic….
350 for a frame is so unrealistic..a nice frame made in tawiwann costs maybe 65 each.. so to make youre money back you sell it for 150.. thats a good price..
American made,
means some american made a lot of money off selling it.Any other questions?
american made frames cost about $250 to get made– if you are getting more than say– 50 they go down to about $200
it’s not till you are getting like 100 plus frames before they are $150 to get made– so for a small time, start up company, that is trying to keep work inside the US. they have to sell for $349.
lets not forget that prototypes are not cheap as well. most companies will have at least three prototypes made– at about $300 each. if everything is correct, then they can get production frames made– but nost times they are in for another 3 prototypes to get the bugs worked out.
don’t hate the frame companies for selling american made frames for so much…. hate the frame builders that force them to do so
dave
jiust buy from taiwann.. its easier
bulldogs aint 150
for friends they are .. retail we sell em at 285, which isnt right.. but i dont own the company.. but still 285 is ALOT cheaper than 349 fo sho
I will tell ya most foreign frames wholesale for 155 to 180 am frame wholesale for 200. to 240 mark up is about fare for shipping and time and were are here to make some money just like any other industry dont forget the quality now you get areal lite good strong high end steel frame with cool colors and geometry that you want ton of choice too
for friends they are
then put me down for one–
so who is worse– the guy that sells his frame for $350 and makes $100 or the guiy that sells his for $285 and makes $220
i have a feeling that i know what frame adam is talking about, and if i am right, you know the frame too dave.
in thier defense, they had 6 prototypes made before they got what they wanted– thats $1800
they had 12 frames made— at $100 each– they still loose
dave
remember back when you got a frame and fork for 199$
Well i ride an AMERICAN made PORTER, and next to my AMERICAN made ROBINSON amtrac, this is the best frame i have ever had.
i wonder if the robinson was american made.. i have no clue
Go to any ride spot and check these kids bikes out they have all this shit its us that cant afford it !!!!! They are willing to buy but are also price aware so they go to mailorder they just dont see the benifit to goig to a shop …If I have to explain that I just wasted 18 years of my life in the bike industry !!!!
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